Things like this is why I take up for Muslims here...

**R13** · September 15th, 2010, 05:13 PM

Yet you can't refute one damn thing I said. You were over there how long ago? Seen what personally? Were arrested for anything? I'm just not going by rumors/myths that are constantly repeated, which with what you posted, is exactly where you got all that shit...maybe you picked it up over there, but it doesn't make it any more true, same bullshit myths passed around. You can try to write it off all you want, but it doesn't make what I said wrong. You get debunked and fall back on that "inexperienced" argument.

**centennialdawg** · September 15th, 2010, 07:43 PM

Myths? Damn dude, you really do have a warped mind. LOL, you are ignorant if you think what I said is a myth. You don't know, I was there in 1989 and 1990, You need to just grow up and learn about real life and quit living in your fantasy world. You sound so stupid that you can't be for real, you have to be the laughing stock of your family to believe some of the bull you put on here. I am done with you. Just remember, every dog has its day, and it will with you soon. LOL.

**R13** · September 15th, 2010, 07:57 PM

Yeah, myth. I know for a fact shit like that doesn't happen in Jordan, I can go look the others up and probably with the exception of maybe Iran and Saudi Araibia, that doesn't happen really that much(it's not common practice, definitely not in Jordan)...well not by the gov., hasn't in many years and is limited to a few places. Then the red-cross shit was obviously a myth or lie one, sorry, didn't happen. Just because you made a trip to the general area, doesn't mean you're not full of shit. You're welcome to debunk anything I've said, if I were wrong, you would have already...but no, "you're done with me" lmao, convenient huh? I knew those two claims were bull right off the bat, but I can back it up.

Jordan is an advocate for religious freedom in the region and the world. Religious officials have no part in the government and are not allowed to interfere in the state's affairs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan

About the crescent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cross

Your threats don't scare anyone, some don't know that you act like a little 13 year old girl who have threatened several forum members, just pm'ing me a few weeks ago spouting off that I better watch my back and you were going to beat my ass. You're a joke and just got busted with these ridiculous claims, now you're running. You really are one to talk about "laughing stock", I found that quite hilarious coming from you.

**centennialdawg** · September 15th, 2010, 08:27 PM

Not ridiculus. You have never been there, I have. You don't know squat about anything. You are a total and undeniable dumb idiot. I get passionate when people like you "tread" on this country like we are always wrong about everything. I have an idea, since you like to defend those countries, why don't you go live there. I have, you haven't, believe me, you will change your mind. Oh, I forgot, you won't because you are too big of a chicken. And for your information, it must have been my daughter who sent that to you, I don't send pm's to threaten, I just go ahead and follow through with my promises. Don't believe me, just ask and don't ask your little peeps, they don't know me.

**R13** · September 15th, 2010, 08:39 PM

You could have just moved from there after spending your entire life there, if it didn't happen, it didn't happen. It's not "taking up for them", it's correcting bullshit when I see it. You went with that whole "we're the only country" when that's obviously not true, then saying that the red cross was banned and that Jordan goes by Sharia Law...that wasn't true, I don't care where you visited, it's not true.

And wow, I can't believe you're going to sit here and claim your daughter messaged me and threatened me...that's pretty low. It was you, I can post the messages, the exact same typing style and language you use. You even said "I am too old and too mean to run", among other dead giveaways. What a POS that you would try to claim it was your daughter, you're unbelievable. You sent several messages threatening me posting just like you do on here, now I call you out publicly, someone turns into a little bitch and has the balls to claim it's their daughter. You did it with another poster too, but now lying about this one, pathetic.

**1inStripes** · September 15th, 2010, 09:11 PM

Pressure rises on Christians in Jordan, Algeria | Analysis & Opinion |

Pressure rises on Christians in Jordan, Algeria
Feb 22, 2008 10:19 EST
catholic | christian | middle east | muslim | religious freedom
Rising tension between Christians and Muslims in the Arab world have come out in the open with the expulsion of foreign Christian charity workers from Jordan and the conviction of a Catholic priest in Algeria. Although the cases seem different, the background is similar. Evangelical Christians have been increasingly active in the Islamic world, doing charity and development work and also seeking to convert Muslims. The missionary part is usually a crime in Islamic countries and local authorities — rightly or wrongly — often suspect the charity part is a cover for this proselytism. This sets the stage for clashes over religious freedom, national laws, Christianity, Islam and modernity — an increasingly frequent mix in a globalised world. It also has serious effects on the long-established but fragile Christian communities living in those Muslim countries.

In Jordan, Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh said this week that Christians had come to Jordan under the “pretext of charitable and voluntary activities, but they had violated the law by undertaking preaching activities and were expelled”. This followed a long report by Compass Direct News, an agency that focuses on persecution of Christians around the world, that Jordan had “deported or refused residence permits to at least 27 expatriate Christian families and individuals in 2007, a number of them working with local churches or studying at a Christian seminary“.

One report said those involved were from the United States, South Korea, Egypt, Sudan and Iraq. “It is puzzling that certain small groups with a few hundred members and which are foreign to Christians in Jordan and to the history of Muslim-Christian relations, permit themselves to speak in the name of Christians and act as protectors of Christianity as if it were in danger,” it quoted the Council of Churches, the highest Christian body in Jordan, as saying. AsiaNews says: “According to the Saudi newspaper Al-Watan, the group of eight missionaries was distributing Christian material among the Bedouins to the north and east of the capital Amman.”

The Catholic Archbishop of Algiers Henri Teissier told William Maclean, our chief correspondent for North Africa, that increased activity by evangelical Christians in Algeria had caused problems for Catholics. “For the last two years, we have serious difficulties made for us by the Algerian administration every two or three months,” he said this week. “I think it’s due to the fight against the proselytising by evangelical groups … We are not responsible for this evangelism. But the administration continues to take measures against us … (Evangelicals) have arrived in Africa. And the first to have suffered from the actions of these groups are Catholics.”

Teissier was commenting on the case of French priest Pierre Wallez, who was given a suspended one year prison sentence last month for praying with Christians in western Algeria in a place not authorised for religious worship. The Christians were illegal migrants from Cameroon based on the border with Morocco, part of a shifting community of mostly Ghanaian, Nigerian and Cameroonian migrants who have been visited by Roman Catholics priests in the area for years.

Wallez was convicted under a two-year-old law that limits non-Muslim worship to specific buildings approved by the state. The law, which also forbids proselytism, was prompted by what officials have described as an increase in the activities of Christian evangelical groups. Complaints by government officials about the alleged conversion efforts have reached a crescendo in recent weeks.

Algerian observers say conversion among Muslims there is a marginal activity rooted in a mistaken belief among some Algerians that Western countries will more readily issue them visas if they have converted to Christianity.

These tensions have arisen before in different countries around the Muslim world and they’re sure to come up again. Do you think it’s right for Christians to go and break laws in Islamic countries to convert Muslims? Or is the question whether Islamic countries should have laws against conversion and missionary work in the first place?

**R13** · September 15th, 2010, 09:13 PM

?pretext of charitable and voluntary activities, but they had violated the law by undertaking preaching activities and were expelled?. Christians aren't banned or anything like that.